What’s Up with the charging speeds ?

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G43FAN wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:24 pm
Anduain wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:04 pm DC rapid charging for us has been great, the free 50kW chargers (that work) are extremely quick, typically around 45kW after a 15 minute drive.

As Scott says, we too have not really noticed much change from 80 to 90.

I have to say that with a rapid charger running it’s caught me out a couple of times and charged up to 100%, fortunately always before a 2 hour drive.

The only place we have achieved 11kW charging (AC) has been at home, nowhere else works, after nearly 4 months of experimentation.
You get 11kW at home. Is that a perk of the Spanish electrical system?
We have 3 phase leccy and had the Elli charger installed after VW offering us a major discount on it.

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Anduain wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:20 pm
G43FAN wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:24 pm
Anduain wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:04 pm DC rapid charging for us has been great, the free 50kW chargers (that work) are extremely quick, typically around 45kW after a 15 minute drive.

As Scott says, we too have not really noticed much change from 80 to 90.

I have to say that with a rapid charger running it’s caught me out a couple of times and charged up to 100%, fortunately always before a 2 hour drive.

The only place we have achieved 11kW charging (AC) has been at home, nowhere else works, after nearly 4 months of experimentation.
You get 11kW at home. Is that a perk of the Spanish electrical system?
We have 3 phase leccy and had the Elli charger installed after VW offering us a major discount on it.
Ahhh Thanks for the explanation, is that peculiar to your set up or is 3 phase more common?.. V. Handy anyway and a bit quicker again than the 7.4kW us on single phase are allowed.
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I did have a much better speed today, so having seen that graph it makes more sense. I pulled up at my local instavolt centre which is up to 125kw/h, been driving around for two hours and 20 degrees outside, got up up 80 kw/h which isn't bad. Only did it for 5 minutes though, as I just wanted to test it out.
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With 10 degress celcius Outdoor temp and a starting soc between 5% and 15% i have not been able to get more than 70 kWh speed on ionity was expecting 100 kWh speed

Charging is free (2000 kWh gift from vw, we charge plus)

Is this the reason for reduced Charging speed?
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Stduu wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 1:25 pm With 10 degress celcius Outdoor temp and a starting soc between 5% and 15% i have not been able to get more than 70 kWh speed on ionity was expecting 100 kWh speed

Charging is free (2000 kWh gift from vw, we charge plus)

Is this the reason for reduced Charging speed?

How long and hard had you driven before arriving at the Ionity location?

The fact that it's free (with your credit) is not the reason.
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Various time and speed befote arriving to Charging Station.

1.50 km with speed of 70 kmh
2. 130 km with speed of 110 kmh
3. 60 km with speed of 110 kmh

Outside temp spprox 10 degress celcius

All 3 scenarious rwsulted in peak Charging of 70 kWh

Wathing numerous YouTube videos on Charging the id. 3 something seems wrong
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But was that constant speed or with strong accelerations? You understand I’m thinking about battery temperatures...

Don’t forget that the charge point may also not have been capable of pushing a higher rate at the time, you don’t say if it was always the same one or different ones.

I’ve only charged at a 100kW once, the vast majority has been at a 50kW and that usually gives me a rate of about 48-49kW.
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Driven 100km to this Ionity charger, currently charging at 300km/h (30%)

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Explain this one to me then. I had 15% left today and rocked up at a 150kw/h chargers today after driving for hour. 66 kw/h max. Why?
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I think, and could be very wrong, that the maximum DC charge is 100kw/h and I do vaguely remember reading somewhere that even that is subject to a software update, might have been 2.1.

Could be that the charger could only deliver that load due to other draws.
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Anduain wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 8:23 pm I think, and could be very wrong, that the maximum DC charge is 100kw/h and I do vaguely remember reading somewhere that even that is subject to a software update, might have been 2.1.

Could be that the charger could only deliver that load due to other draws.
I have 2.1, and I know it's 100 kw/h maximum. If there were ever a situation where it could have taken 100 it would be then with good weather, long use and low battery. But no.
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