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Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:32 pm
by Deleted User 314
What I find more annoying and potentially dangerous is the car braking on the motorway for an exit even if you ignore it and in fact braking for a roundabout at the top of said exit.

Obviously you don’t lose control or anything, it is just pesky that it brakes for a roundabout that’s about 500m behind you.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Mon May 17, 2021 8:01 am
by ColinID3
What is the current NCAP rating of your Nissan? I heard that the lack of 1-touch disable was also part of why the ID.3 has 5*
Good point well made Scott.
It turns out the Nissan was only 4* and doesn't seem to have been rated at all for 'Safety Assistance Systems' where as the ID3 scored 88% for this.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:17 am
by G43FAN
So, as I have stated previously I haven't felt that the lane assist 'interferes' much with my drive despite using primarily A and B (unclassified) lanes for most of my journeys, however I have recently started trying out B mode again to see if I could get on with it better now I was used to the car. This might be my imagination, but in B mode I seem to get a lot more Lane assist warnings?

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:51 am
by andrewparker
Is it possible to turn off Lane Assist on the ID.3 via a button on the indicator stalk, like you can on a MK8 Golf?

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:28 am
by G43FAN
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Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:28 am
by Deleted User 192
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:51 am Is it possible to turn off Lane Assist on the ID.3 via a button on the indicator stalk, like you can on a MK8 Golf?

No.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:34 am
by andrewparker
scott28tt wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:28 am
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:51 am Is it possible to turn off Lane Assist on the ID.3 via a button on the indicator stalk, like you can on a MK8 Golf?
No.
Can you add it to the short cuts?

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:47 am
by Deleted User 192
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:34 am
scott28tt wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:28 am
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:51 am Is it possible to turn off Lane Assist on the ID.3 via a button on the indicator stalk, like you can on a MK8 Golf?
No.
Can you add it to the short cuts?

No.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:57 am
by Deleted User 1426
If you know someone with an OBD11 programmer or you buy one (£91) you can set the lane assist feature to remember last setting. So then if you switch it off it will stay off after a restart until you turn it on again. Even the ID3 user manual suggests that it should only be used on motorways and well made A roads.

I should say that living in Norfolk with very few A roads, it is a nightmare on all the smaller B roads.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:08 am
by andrewparker
It's bizarre that they've made it relatively easy to switch off on a Golf, but not followed that through to the ID.3. We live in a rural location and most of the time when you're driving you're using narrow roads which inevitably leads to straddling lanes a lot.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:11 am
by jasonrcook
Normally it doesn't bother me too much. But, I have noticed that it really struggles in rain. The tracks from the vehicle in front seem to make it think I'm constantly crossing lanes so the wheel is constantly moving. For me, that is a good enough reason to want to turn it off - so having to do that through the screens each time is a pain. Even worse, is realising I haven't done it before setting off so have to do it during the journey and therefore having to do it on the move whilst the wheel is trying to kill me! :-)

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:50 am
by andrewparker
Wonder if there is any insurance implication if you turn it off via ODB11...

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:30 am
by gailjon
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:50 am Wonder if there is any insurance implication if you turn it off via ODB11...
I would very much doubt that they would ever find out in the event of an accident.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:43 am
by G43FAN
gailjon wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:30 am
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:50 am Wonder if there is any insurance implication if you turn it off via ODB11...
I would very much doubt that they would ever find out in the event of an accident.
I would suggest it depended on the nature and severity of the accident and who got involved. Insurance companies will go a long way to avoid paying out.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:47 am
by Deleted User 1426
All new VW's and I think other NCAP 5 vehicles have to have it enabled by default, I had a Tiguan on loan the other day and it was permanently enabled, you could turn it off in the menu, but no simple on and off button on the stalks.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:49 am
by Deleted User 1426
And regarding the insurance implications, if you can turn it off on every journey by going through hoops it makes no difference if it is set to remember last setting. You can turn it on and off anyway.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:52 am
by andrewparker
Cyclobob wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:49 am And regarding the insurance implications, if you can turn it off on every journey by going through hoops it makes no difference if it is set to remember last setting. You can turn it on and off anyway.
Yeah, that is a good point.

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:03 pm
by Utumno
G43FAN wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:43 am
gailjon wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:30 am
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:50 am Wonder if there is any insurance implication if you turn it off via ODB11...
I would very much doubt that they would ever find out in the event of an accident.
I would suggest it depended on the nature and severity of the accident and who got involved. Insurance companies will go a long way to avoid paying out.

I agree. I also think that increasingly the electronic state of the vehicle, and modifications made to it, are going to come under more and more scrutiny in future. Which will likely make OBD modifications insurance-notifiable, and probably more secured by design in the electronics of the vehicle.

Of course you can still turn it off and on, but modifying the default state may invalidate your insurance :-(

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:39 pm
by Deleted User 1426
If I am driving with Lane Assist off (which is a default menu choice that I make whenever I start the car) what difference would it make if I had an accident and lane assist was off because it had been set to remember last setting? In one instance it is me that turns it off (every trip except when I want it on for motorways like the user manual suggests) and the other instance, the car remembers I want it turned off for every trip (except when I turn it on for motorways)??

Re: Turning Off Lane Assist

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:02 pm
by Scratch
gailjon wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:30 am
andrewparker wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:50 am Wonder if there is any insurance implication if you turn it off via ODB11...
I would very much doubt that they would ever find out in the event of an accident.
Aren’t all the settings stored for recall somewhere in the system?