ID3 Home Charging

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stu-evs
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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by stu-evs » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:59 pm

TomElleray wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:06 pm
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I have a question for those of you that have either “hacked” your charger with a relay to introduce a timer function, or have a timer function built in to your charger:

I have installed a relay in my pod point charger, that I can control from an app on my phone - thereby giving me timer functionality for charging on the cheap rates of electricity at night. I was wondering what settings you have in the vehicle to enable the car to be “woken up” by the charger when it kicks in? I can’t seem to get the car to wake up at the moment.

Thanks in advance
I think this is controlled by the charger not the car (or certainly to some extent) - on the Andersen charger I make no settings at all in the car - just controlled via the charger app. I believe the chargers have an information/control connection/wire to the car as well as simply power...I know some chargers have problems with certain cars - and when I've supported Andersen with a bit of Beta testing some time ago they needed to know the particular car that was being charged to ensure that the connectivity was correct.

In fact; I know Jaguar (I-PACE) still can't 'talk' to many chargers if you try to initiate timed charging from the car - but from my Andersen I can initiate & control it with the jaguar no problem....

Hope this helps (I realise it doesn't help with the Podpoint issue specifically - but hopefully the knowledge helps?!)
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Matte100
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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by Matte100 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:39 pm

Hi, I have a new ID3 on order and looking at charging units. The Podpoint site gives an option for a 22kW charging unit but says charging speed will be limited by your Volkswagen ID.3's onboard charger? New to all this so any help appreciated.

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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by scott28tt » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:09 pm

Matte100 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:39 pm
Hi, I have a new ID3 on order and looking at charging units. The Podpoint site gives an option for a 22kW charging unit but says charging speed will be limited by your Volkswagen ID.3's onboard charger? New to all this so any help appreciated.

You will only get 22kW if you have a 3-phase electricity supply, the vast majority of homes do not and therefore only need a 7kW unit - the ID3 will take that amount of juice as fast as it’s delivered, so unless you have 3-phase order a 7kW and don’t worry.

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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by simonrg » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:20 pm

scott28tt wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:09 pm
Matte100 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:39 pm
Hi, I have a new ID3 on order and looking at charging units. The Podpoint site gives an option for a 22kW charging unit but says charging speed will be limited by your Volkswagen ID.3's onboard charger? New to all this so any help appreciated.
You will only get 22kW if you have a 3-phase electricity supply, the vast majority of homes do not and therefore only need a 7kW unit - the ID3 will take that amount of juice as fast as it’s delivered, so unless you have 3-phase order a 7kW and don’t worry.
Also the ID.3 only has an 11kW transformer so theoretically would only charge at 11kW even with a 22kW charging unit.
Maximum appears to be 7.2kW with Podpoint units accounting to Podpoint ID.3 page.
I am not sure why it wouldn't get 11kW as stated on Volkswagen 12 facts about the ID.3.
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Matte100
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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by Matte100 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:01 pm

scott28tt wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:09 pm
Matte100 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:39 pm
Hi, I have a new ID3 on order and looking at charging units. The Podpoint site gives an option for a 22kW charging unit but says charging speed will be limited by your Volkswagen ID.3's onboard charger? New to all this so any help appreciated.

You will only get 22kW if you have a 3-phase electricity supply, the vast majority of homes do not and therefore only need a 7kW unit - the ID3 will take that amount of juice as fast as it’s delivered, so unless you have 3-phase order a 7kW and don’t worry.
Great advice thanks Scott, really useful. I'm useful considering the Andersen A2 as recommended above. I'll report back once ordered and installed.

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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by Matte100 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:02 pm

simonrg wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:20 pm
scott28tt wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:09 pm
Matte100 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:39 pm
Hi, I have a new ID3 on order and looking at charging units. The Podpoint site gives an option for a 22kW charging unit but says charging speed will be limited by your Volkswagen ID.3's onboard charger? New to all this so any help appreciated.
You will only get 22kW if you have a 3-phase electricity supply, the vast majority of homes do not and therefore only need a 7kW unit - the ID3 will take that amount of juice as fast as it’s delivered, so unless you have 3-phase order a 7kW and don’t worry.
Also the ID.3 only has an 11kW transformer so theoretically would only charge at 11kW even with a 22kW charging unit.
Maximum appears to be 7.2kW with Podpoint units accounting to Podpoint ID.3 page.
I am not sure why it wouldn't get 11kW as stated on Volkswagen 12 facts about the ID.3.
Great, thanks Simon. All new to this so lots to learn! Cheers

greebosolo
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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by greebosolo » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 am

Does anyone have experience with the myenergy Zappi charger - I am trying to figure out if I can use the timer on it.

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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by HeidiFlowerpot » Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:41 pm

greebosolo wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 am
Does anyone have experience with the myenergy Zappi charger - I am trying to figure out if I can use the timer on it.
The Zappi should work fine with the ID.3. Mine does. I haven't yet tried using the Zappi timer. Others have reported that with the current software level the ID.3 has an annoying habit of going to sleep when charging stops and not waking again when charging resumes. So the Zappi function to charge using excess solar generation for those of us with solar panels, doesn't work well. It will charge the car when first there is excess solar, but if the sun goes behind clouds and then comes back out again, the charge of course stops and when the Zappi tries to restart it, the car doesn't respond. I'm hoping that the elixir of youth known as software 2.1 will sort this problem out.

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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by ColinID3 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:04 pm

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Also the ID.3 only has an 11kW transformer so theoretically would only charge at 11kW even with a 22kW charging unit.
Maximum appears to be 7.2kW with Podpoint units accounting to Podpoint ID.3 page.
I am not sure why it wouldn't get 11kW as stated on Volkswagen 12 facts about the ID.3.
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7.2KW is apparently the standard that has been set in the UK for single phase chargers, Although itis possible to draw 10.5 kW for some electric showers and even more for some oven/cooker combinations, it has been deemed that it isn't viable for EV chargers to draw more than 50% of the theoretical capacity of older domestic systems, so we are all limited to that. It would be interesting to know how it works in German and the Nordic countries. I bet they can all charge merrily away at 11kw at home!

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Re: ID3 Home Charging

Post by stevieboy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:44 pm

To get 11kW you need three phase 16A supply. Most German houses are supplied with 3 phase. In the UK a domestic 3 phase supply is a rarity.

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