Delivery time

[Utumno]

Hi everyone been following this for a while and no time to add my sixth pence…I emailed several dealers in the south for a family pro and one had 14 on order back in September which just needed a colour change and the alloys added so I duly ordered on on the 21st that had a scheduled build week of 51 and estimated delivery of Jan 22 this slipped to week 7 because of the change than back to a confirmed build week of 51…update today as I asked for one all week 51 cars have been removed and no new dates and mine is status 00 now so who knows when delivery is now…

Exactly the same has happened to ours, ordered 4th august, originally told Dec delivery, then production moved to week 2/22 then dropped to 14/22 now gone back to status 00.

Ah okay so this is happening to quite a few people. Our current status is also 00 and not showing a scheduled build week yet.

I have to say that if VW does this to us - and I think there's every chance they will do (or have done, and our dealer isn't telling us) - they're going to be losing our business to Tesla and screw the additional vast expense. There's only so much SWMBO earache I can take and our situation is that we now can't prat about without firm delivery dates past early February.

[ksoni94]

Exactly the same has happened to ours, ordered 4th august, originally told Dec delivery, then production moved to week 2/22 then dropped to 14/22 now gone back to status 00.

Ah okay so this is happening to quite a few people. Our current status is also 00 and not showing a scheduled build week yet.

I have to say that if VW does this to us - and I think there's every chance they will do (or have done, and our dealer isn't telling us) - they're going to be losing our business to Tesla and screw the additional vast expense. There's only so much SWMBO earache I can take and our situation is that we now can't prat about without firm delivery dates past early February.

If this happens to your order I imagine we're all screwed! There's only a few w40 orders yet to leave the factory according to the sheet, I'd hope yours is due on a boat soon. Or as has already been mentioned it might be in the UK already and your dealer has no idea

[aayron]

Ordered mine on 30th October 2021 (id.3 Family Pro in Makena Turquoise with East Derry Wheels) from Vertu Volkswagen. I've finally got my order number 31528xxx and have been given a guesstimate of end-June 2022 for delivery but was advised at the time of purchase that delivery would be 8-12 months from order date.

Can you add me to your spreadsheet, Utumno?

My 20 year old Honda Civic has just scraped through its MOT so needs to hang on a little bit longer yet.

[sausageroll]

Involving myself slightly in the 'vessel tracking' game, 'Parana' arrived in Emden just after midnight
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/PA ... -218562000

It has previously done a vehicle drop in Sheerness before, on the 26th, which was some 4 days after it had arrived in Emden. I would hazard a guess that anyone using a dealer in the South will be via that vessel, and so it could be the 12th before anything arrives in the UK from Emden.

Assuming there's not another ship en-route, which I can't see that there is.


To add further, Parana previous arrived in Sheerness Nov 26, 13:40 and departed Nov 26, 23:19, with 'fixit' announcing on his post on Nov 27, around 11am (viewtopic.php?p=15135#p15135) that his was status 40, in the UK. Would suggest that 'fixit' is in the South, or used a southern dealer?

I anticipate then that anyone whose car is on that ship to Sheerness would potentially know about it on the 13th?

[Alanpyle]

If you cancel its only you that loses out, because all they will do is keep the car in the build queue and sell it to someone else.

[murfmac]

Does VW update their system when the cars go on the ship to be transported or is it a day or so behind?

[Bubba82]

Looking at the excellent tracker very few people have a car scheduled to be built weeks 1 - 22, wonder why???

[Daveion]

I heard from my dealership today to say that my new car is status code 00.
I ordered on the 9th of September.
I know I'm in for a wait but is there any general time span guide to move from 00 to 10.
At 3 months on from ordering I thought I would know something.

[andrewparker]

This happened on my last VW order, during the WLTP fiasco. Many months after ordering it actually disappeared off the system for some time. Word from VW was that they were rescheduling etc. but it wouldn't greatly effect the lead time, and it didn't. When it appeared back on the system the build date etc was more-or-less as it was before it went to status 00.

[Moog]

But thinking about it logically……

VWAG, have now launched 2 new cars in the last 3 months, the ID5 and Cupra Born. Dealerships will need cars for sales worldwide, press cars will need to be built etc, I have our ID3 and a Q4 on order. Both roughly the same time early august.

Seems fishy to me that both our orders have recently been booted to 00 status. I personally feel that production has massively slowed due to a number of reasons, completing chip waiting cars and getting them on the boat before Xmas, cupra born and ID5 press/dealer production.

It’s crap but makes sense…..

I agree - as someone who has worked as a Design & Development Engineer in the automotive industry (Not VAG!) for decades I can state that "Job1" almost always takes priority over everything else, so hitting those Cupra Born & ID5 launch dates is likely to be a non-negotiable and anything that threatens to delay that is dealt with. Sadly that can mean bumping back any other delayed production if required. As shortages continue to hit the supply chain then critical shortage parts are ringfenced for the new Job1 production runs. Builds that were originally scheduled down the line for before those launch dates and have now slipped to roughly the same time will be pushed further back behind them. In normal times these delays are managed a bit more slickly and may only be apparent to a few customers, but at the moment it is all chaos. I hear from former colleagues now working in other OEM's who are seeing similar issues. A friend has been quoted well over a year for a Discovery. I looked a short while ago and could not have ordered a new Kona Electric if I wanted to (though I think they are back up now).

What we don't know of course is how large those Born & ID5 launch runs are - if we knew that then we could maybe work out when the ID3 builds currently having build dates pulled will be shifted back to.

[Utumno]

Ordered mine on 30th October 2021 (id.3 Family Pro in Makena Turquoise with East Derry Wheels) from Vertu Volkswagen. I've finally got my order number 31528xxx and have been given a guesstimate of end-June 2022 for delivery but was advised at the time of purchase that delivery would be 8-12 months from order date.

Can you add me to your spreadsheet, Utumno?

My 20 year old Honda Civic has just scraped through its MOT so needs to hang on a little bit longer yet.

Done! Thanks for the details!

[Utumno]

Ah okay so this is happening to quite a few people. Our current status is also 00 and not showing a scheduled build week yet.

I have to say that if VW does this to us - and I think there's every chance they will do (or have done, and our dealer isn't telling us) - they're going to be losing our business to Tesla and screw the additional vast expense. There's only so much SWMBO earache I can take and our situation is that we now can't prat about without firm delivery dates past early February.

If this happens to your order I imagine we're all screwed! There's only a few w40 orders yet to leave the factory according to the sheet, I'd hope yours is due on a boat soon. Or as has already been mentioned it might be in the UK already and your dealer has no idea

We can only hope. I can absolutely concur with the view that our dealer has no idea .

[Newfie]

Involving myself slightly in the 'vessel tracking' game, 'Parana' arrived in Emden just after midnight
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/PA ... -218562000

It has previously done a vehicle drop in Sheerness before, on the 26th, which was some 4 days after it had arrived in Emden. I would hazard a guess that anyone using a dealer in the South will be via that vessel, and so it could be the 12th before anything arrives in the UK from Emden.

Assuming there's not another ship en-route, which I can't see that there is.


To add further, Parana previous arrived in Sheerness Nov 26, 13:40 and departed Nov 26, 23:19, with 'fixit' announcing on his post on Nov 27, around 11am (viewtopic.php?p=15135#p15135) that his was status 40, in the UK. Would suggest that 'fixit' is in the South, or used a southern dealer?

I anticipate then that anyone whose car is on that ship to Sheerness would potentially know about it on the 13th?

Keep your eye on the Danube Highway, its possibly heading for Sheerness. If not Sheerness I would guess Dublin.

[ricko]

Thinking about the various delays, status changes and MY22.5 it makes me wonder whether there are changes included in 22.5 that are specifically targeting the component shortages, through circuit board revision levels etc. I know Tesla already did this - they are able to drop changes into production smoothly but I doubt VW can do the same without a "clear down" of work in progress on the lines.

[korky]

Ordered mine on 30th October 2021 (id.3 Family Pro in Makena Turquoise with East Derry Wheels) from Vertu Volkswagen. I've finally got my order number 31528xxx and have been given a guesstimate of end-June 2022 for delivery but was advised at the time of purchase that delivery would be 8-12 months from order date.

Can you add me to your spreadsheet, Utumno?

My 20 year old Honda Civic has just scraped through its MOT so needs to hang on a little bit longer yet.

Done! Thanks for the details!

[JRF]

May I add my order to the list.
Placed 18/10/2021.
Order No 31505xxx
Family Pro Performance Moonstone/Derry Alloys
Thanks Utumno.

[epicwinningmaz]

Thinking about the various delays, status changes and MY22.5 it makes me wonder whether there are changes included in 22.5 that are specifically targeting the component shortages, through circuit board revision levels etc. I know Tesla already did this - they are able to drop changes into production smoothly but I doubt VW can do the same without a "clear down" of work in progress on the lines.

Part of me hopes not. Renault removed AEB system to handle component shortage..,

[sausageroll]

Keep your eye on the Danube Highway, its possibly heading for Sheerness. If not Sheerness I would guess Dublin.

I'd discounted it based on the fact that it appears to be doing hops between Scandinavia and germany, whereas Parana have previously done the Sheerness hop.

Both will probably be docked until Saturday now anyway.

[mediaguy]

Part of me hopes not. Renault removed AEB system to handle component shortage..,

I didn't think zero star electric cars existed! https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/renault/zoe/44206

[duncsand]

You can add me to the spreadsheet:
Family Pro Performance
Ordered 27th September
Order number 31482xxx