Volkswagen ID.3 Forum

N21 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:12 pm My dealer specifically suggested the 14 day cancellation process to me when ordering. Wouldn't even be aware of it if they hadn't!

Nice to see a sales representative on the side of the customer. His sales manager must hate them.

N21 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:10 pm If this is accurate, curious to know what will happen to OZEV grant payouts given i) the scheme's gradual phasing out, and ii) that grant orders are only valid for 9 months before they expire...

If you are referring to the plug-in grant then chip shortages may qualify for exceptional circumstances. The dealer can apply for an extension.
I will ask mine to as I do not want a 22 plate for 3 days!

"Such orders will not be reinstated except in exceptional circumstances and at OZEV's discretion or if an extension to the usual 9 month deadline has been granted."

Cherry wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:27 pm

N21 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:10 pm If this is accurate, curious to know what will happen to OZEV grant payouts given i) the scheme's gradual phasing out, and ii) that grant orders are only valid for 9 months before they expire...

OZEV is for home chargers.

If you are referring to the plug-in grant then chip shortages may qualify for exceptional circumstances. The dealer can apply for an extension.
I will ask mine to as I do not want a 22 plate for 3 days!

"Such orders will not be reinstated except in exceptional circumstances and at OZEV's discretion or if an extension to the usual 9 month deadline has been granted."

OZEV covers chargers (EVHS) and vehicles (PIVG).

I guess it's up to them whether these would qualify or not.

PICG has been automatically extended to 12 months since November 2020, with a review due in February 2022.

And Cherry is quite right in that the dealer can apply for a longer extension if necessary. Though as we are not yet at 12 month lead times, that issue seems moot. One source below for that info:

https://www.am-online.com/amp/news/late ... ant-orders

Utumno wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:36 pm PICG has been automatically extended to 12 months since November 2020, with a review due in February 2022.

And Cherry is quite right in that the dealer can apply for a longer extension if necessary. Though as we are not yet at 12 month lead times, that issue seems moot. One source below for that info:

https://www.am-online.com/amp/news/late ... ant-orders

Phew! I want do not want a 25th July registration for my second car. I would wait for 1st Sep (and time to sell it)!

You have to wonder woth the current lead time now more than 12 months and people having thier orders pushed back what the reputational damage to vw is as well as thier ev market share, Tesla seemingly are able to still get cars out in much shorter timescales vw need to come out and explain why they are so seemingly paralysed by the chip shortage and improve thier communication to thier customers.

It seems to me there was a cutover in early August (with honourable mentions to a few unlucky July orders) where delivery times suddenly got significantly worse, from 4-5 months to 7-8 months +.
I wonder whether this is caused by a worsening chip situation, an increase in demand, or a realisation that it was out of control and they needed to start giving more pessimistic delivery schedules to create headroom. I think most people are understanding of the chip shortage issues but communication is key. I think rather than just remove the delivery tracker they should have replaced it with something that gave a slightly more descriptive status with a better breakdown of the period from order placement to build, that might have helped.

I think its been mentioned before, but I think the Cupra Born being released will have knocked back a lot of our ID3 orders - they'll knock out of lot of those on the trot you would think, then get back to the VW orders

soupdragon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:49 am I think its been mentioned before, but I think the Cupra Born being released will have knocked back a lot of our ID3 orders - they'll knock out of lot of those on the trot you would think, then get back to the VW orders

It'll be intriguing within the UK if we start seeing folk get Cupra Borns before those who ordered an ID3 before, say, the start of 2022. As I understand though, Cupra UK aren't taking orders for the Born yet?

Becoming a bit of a joke if its 12 months+ to be honest. Other EV manufacturers don't seem to have the same issues, a quick google on electric lease deals and there are plenty there are showing as 'in stock' or '8 weeks delivery'. ID3 must be REALLY popular or VW have just got things hugely wrong.

Jack1338 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:20 am

soupdragon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:49 am I think its been mentioned before, but I think the Cupra Born being released will have knocked back a lot of our ID3 orders - they'll knock out of lot of those on the trot you would think, then get back to the VW orders

It'll be intriguing within the UK if we start seeing folk get Cupra Borns before those who ordered an ID3 before, say, the start of 2022. As I understand though, Cupra UK aren't taking orders for the Born yet?

Order books are reportedly open already. No idea how realistic the lead times people are being quoted though. I think it's an absolute dead cert that Cupra Born pre-orders will gazump ID.3 production, and probably already have.

https://www.cupraofficial.co.uk/our-dna ... unced.html

Milton Keynes, 15 December 2021 – CUPRA UK has today announced the price of the brand’s first all-electric performance hatchback, Born, with first deliveries expected towards the end of Q1 2022.

I’ve taken the plunge and asked for an update from my dealer 3 months after placing my order.

The salesperson is still saying we are good for April, even though production is running 8 to 9 weeks late.

Feel free to add these details to the spreadsheet if it is of help.

Hemming91 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:50 am Becoming a bit of a joke if its 12 months+ to be honest. Other EV manufacturers don't seem to have the same issues, a quick google on electric lease deals and there are plenty there are showing as 'in stock' or '8 weeks delivery'. ID3 must be REALLY popular or VW have just got things hugely wrong.

I don't see why it can't be both of those either/or things, simultaneously

Also, you should be very suspicious indeed of anything being quoted by any leasing company as "In Stock" unless after talking to them they're able to give you a legitimate VIN number of the vehicle under discussion!

Often "In Stock" to a leasing company means "On Order Already", and therefore the lead time for an "In Stock" vehicle can be 12 months...

Sanya wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:02 am I’ve taken the plunge and asked for an update from my dealer 3 months after placing my order.

The salesperson is still saying we are good for April, even though production is running 8 to 9 weeks late.

Feel free to add these details to the spreadsheet if it is of help.

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Thanks @Sanya! I wish production were only running 8-9 weeks late, at least for the Tour!

Utumno wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:59 am

Jack1338 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:20 am

soupdragon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:49 am I think its been mentioned before, but I think the Cupra Born being released will have knocked back a lot of our ID3 orders - they'll knock out of lot of those on the trot you would think, then get back to the VW orders

It'll be intriguing within the UK if we start seeing folk get Cupra Borns before those who ordered an ID3 before, say, the start of 2022. As I understand though, Cupra UK aren't taking orders for the Born yet?

Order books are reportedly open already. No idea how realistic the lead times people are being quoted though. I think it's an absolute dead cert that Cupra Born pre-orders will gazump ID.3 production, and probably already have.

https://www.cupraofficial.co.uk/our-dna ... unced.html

Milton Keynes, 15 December 2021 – CUPRA UK has today announced the price of the brand’s first all-electric performance hatchback, Born, with first deliveries expected towards the end of Q1 2022.

I actually prefer the Born's looks to the ID3, but I can't get any figures out of any suppliers for a lease yet. They must have been building them for some time now if they are expecting the first models to be delivered by March 2022. Would explain why all our ID3's keep getting pushed back

We ordered ours 04/08/21, Life pro in Makena, with assistance plus pack and andoyas, originally told Nov 2021, then Jan 22, then build was moved to week 10, then 14, now it’s back to 00. Still no update of a new build week.

Still could be worse, I ordered a Q4 same day, suppose to be Jan 21 delivery. Now build week 42 2022

I manage our fleet at work and thought id ask our main supplier about the Born, got the below:

“I have had a conversation with SEAT this week.

Open for ordering has been put back to March (was originally January).

We have some of the data at the moment, but no List Prices.”

Looks like the Born is/will have the same issues too....

Hemming91 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 11:55 am
Open for ordering has been put back to March (was originally January).

Ordering in March, but the killer question is when will delivery be ?

I just had the call. My order as a build week of 29 status 10, estimate delivery end of September. If they actually meet that that will be 48 - 50 weeks total since the factory accepting the order I might have to rethink this. I will post on here if I cancel, might free up a Life Pro Performance if someone is after one!!

darknite1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:10 pm I just had the call. My order as a build week of 29 status 10, estimate delivery end of September. If they actually meet that that will be 48 - 50 weeks total since the factory accepting the order I might have to rethink this. I will post on here if I cancel, might free up a Life Pro Performance if someone is after one!!

I know the pain, it’s looking like a year for myself. I think there will be a lot of people in our situation. I’ve sent an email to Volkswagen as I have lost all faith in there ability to deliver the car this year, which is totally unacceptable to myself