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“ Appreciate it and will share more once I get the car! Hope you've been enjoying yours :)
I am definitely enjoying my car I’ve done 8000 miles so far and it’s so relaxing and enjoyable to drive , I did a 185 mile trip got 2.5 hours sleep while it charged and drove back another 185 miles and felt absolutely fine.
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rikimaru wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:06 pm
Most cars nowadays will tell you which setting you've changed it to in the driver display but in the ID3/ID4 you have to "guess" based on how far up/down the stick is. Maybe it requires a level of skill and I'll learn to master how to gently nudge it into the right position, like some sort of stick whisperer.
What cars have you been driving? I've never seen the wiper setting displayed on a long line of VAG cars I've owned, Fords, Jags, Toyota, Hondas my friends and colleagues drive.

With most cars having auto wipers these days, you'd generally expect to be in that setting. It's also patently obvious whether the wipers are working effectively or require adjustment. There's a slider switch on the stalk for sensitivity adjustment, so there's almost no need to be out of auto (auto with 1 down from highest sensitivity is all you need for all but the lightest of drizzle). Being able to see what setting you are on seems redundant/superfluous info I'd rather not see..
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Post by NewId3 »

Rikimaru, thanks for the post.

We have 3 small kids and the ID3 has been great, especially the 3 isofix provided. If you look back through threads you’ll find some more posts with a few photos - search isofix.
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Post by Andreas »

Nice review, thanks for taking the time to write and post it. Solid observations too.

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Post by epicwinningmaz »

monkeyhanger wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:21 pm
rikimaru wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:06 pm
Most cars nowadays will tell you which setting you've changed it to in the driver display but in the ID3/ID4 you have to "guess" based on how far up/down the stick is. Maybe it requires a level of skill and I'll learn to master how to gently nudge it into the right position, like some sort of stick whisperer.
What cars have you been driving? I've never seen the wiper setting displayed on a long line of VAG cars I've owned, Fords, Jags, Toyota, Hondas my friends and colleagues drive.

With most cars having auto wipers these days, you'd generally expect to be in that setting. It's also patently obvious whether the wipers are working effectively or require adjustment. There's a slider switch on the stalk for sensitivity adjustment, so there's almost no need to be out of auto (auto with 1 down from highest sensitivity is all you need for all but the lightest of drizzle). Being able to see what setting you are on seems redundant/superfluous info I'd rather not see..
People seem to be really offended by this wiper thing. The bigger point was that the driver screen could do more than have 3 types of static screens. I've driven many cars and would agree.
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monkeyhanger wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:21 pm
rikimaru wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:06 pm
Most cars nowadays will tell you which setting you've changed it to in the driver display but in the ID3/ID4 you have to "guess" based on how far up/down the stick is. Maybe it requires a level of skill and I'll learn to master how to gently nudge it into the right position, like some sort of stick whisperer.
What cars have you been driving? I've never seen the wiper setting displayed on a long line of VAG cars I've owned, Fords, Jags, Toyota, Hondas my friends and colleagues drive.

With most cars having auto wipers these days, you'd generally expect to be in that setting. It's also patently obvious whether the wipers are working effectively or require adjustment. There's a slider switch on the stalk for sensitivity adjustment, so there's almost no need to be out of auto (auto with 1 down from highest sensitivity is all you need for all but the lightest of drizzle). Being able to see what setting you are on seems redundant/superfluous info I'd rather not see..
I agree here...I leave the wipers on auto and let them do their thing.

I did spot a bit of penny pinching though...the 'auto' position on the wiper stalk is labelled as 'int' - can you even buy a VW without automatic wipers any more?!

The wiper stalk operates the opposite way round to the stalk on every other VAG car I've driven (unless I'm going mad) which suggests that it's a fairly modern part.
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Post by colonelpurple »

TheJimster wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:30 pm
monkeyhanger wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:21 pm
rikimaru wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:06 pm
Most cars nowadays will tell you which setting you've changed it to in the driver display but in the ID3/ID4 you have to "guess" based on how far up/down the stick is. Maybe it requires a level of skill and I'll learn to master how to gently nudge it into the right position, like some sort of stick whisperer.
What cars have you been driving? I've never seen the wiper setting displayed on a long line of VAG cars I've owned, Fords, Jags, Toyota, Hondas my friends and colleagues drive.

With most cars having auto wipers these days, you'd generally expect to be in that setting. It's also patently obvious whether the wipers are working effectively or require adjustment. There's a slider switch on the stalk for sensitivity adjustment, so there's almost no need to be out of auto (auto with 1 down from highest sensitivity is all you need for all but the lightest of drizzle). Being able to see what setting you are on seems redundant/superfluous info I'd rather not see..
I agree here...I leave the wipers on auto and let them do their thing.

I did spot a bit of penny pinching though...the 'auto' position on the wiper stalk is labelled as 'int' - can you even buy a VW without automatic wipers any more?!

The wiper stalk operates the opposite way round to the stalk on every other VAG car I've driven (unless I'm going mad) which suggests that it's a fairly modern part.
You can change in the settings whether this position is Int or Automatic
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I’ve also never driven a car that displays the wiper setting on the screen. It’s certainly not a feature on any of the cars I own (Porsche, BMW, and VW). I do agree that the drivers screen could be more configurable though. If you’ve got a car with the augmented reality HUD, then you’ve essentially for 3 areas displaying information, which is more than enough.
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Post by gailjon »

My new Sorento PHEV displays the settings for the lights and the wipers each time they are adjusted. |I didn't have that on my previous VAG cars but it is very useful.
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I’ll take your word for it, but frankly I can’t see the value in it. It’s quite evident what setting they’re in because they’re right in front of your eyes!
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Post by TheJimster »

colonelpurple wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:58 am
TheJimster wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:30 pm
monkeyhanger wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:21 pm

What cars have you been driving? I've never seen the wiper setting displayed on a long line of VAG cars I've owned, Fords, Jags, Toyota, Hondas my friends and colleagues drive.

With most cars having auto wipers these days, you'd generally expect to be in that setting. It's also patently obvious whether the wipers are working effectively or require adjustment. There's a slider switch on the stalk for sensitivity adjustment, so there's almost no need to be out of auto (auto with 1 down from highest sensitivity is all you need for all but the lightest of drizzle). Being able to see what setting you are on seems redundant/superfluous info I'd rather not see..
I agree here...I leave the wipers on auto and let them do their thing.

I did spot a bit of penny pinching though...the 'auto' position on the wiper stalk is labelled as 'int' - can you even buy a VW without automatic wipers any more?!

The wiper stalk operates the opposite way round to the stalk on every other VAG car I've driven (unless I'm going mad) which suggests that it's a fairly modern part.
You can change in the settings whether this position is Int or Automatic
VW figure you won’t want one if you use the other
It hadn't occurred to me that you could switch back from auto to int (though I'm not sure why anyone would!)

It makes perfect sense to me that auto and int should be in the same place on the stalk, but given that auto is clearly the default across the entire ID3 range, it would be more logical for the stalk label to read 'auto', which I'm fairly sure is the case on our A3.
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andrewparker wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:48 am I’ll take your word for it, but frankly I can’t see the value in it. It’s quite evident what setting they’re in because they’re right in front of your eyes!
Exactly. What setting they're on isn't relevant anyway, it's a reactionary adjust. If the wipers aren't clearing rain fast enough then you turn the sensitivity (auto) or interval up, without a care what it was previously set to. There's no value at all in cluttering up the dash with unnecessary info.
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Post by Andreas »

Here for the wiper wars!

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It’s a mystery to me. Never had that visible in any car I’ve ever had. I feel we need more info on the driving screen but I think just because I want it not because it’s needed.

Only one I think I want is % because I often go to vehicle settings to check it, therefore it’s something to me.
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Post by rikimaru »

Wow, gone a day and what has this turned into :o :lol:

Moving on from wipergate, the keyless entry is also superb. It’s so useful being able to walk up to the car and get in, especially when carrying shopping etc.

Also the reversing camera hidden away in the badge? Brilliant! Driving the ID4, it was sometimes difficult to see in the rain with raindrops or dirt covering the view. But the ID3 was crystal clear every time.

Why don’t all cars do it like this?
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rikimaru wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:48 pm Wow, gone a day and what has this turned into :o :lol:

Moving on from wipergate, the keyless entry is also superb. It’s so useful being able to walk up to the car and get in, especially when carrying shopping etc.

Also the reversing camera hidden away in the badge? Brilliant! Driving the ID4, it was sometimes difficult to see in the rain with raindrops or dirt covering the view. But the ID3 was crystal clear every time.

Why don’t all cars do it like this?
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Post by Alanpyle »

I have a Hyudia Ioniq&it does display the wiper setting but only for a few seconds
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Post by Smitten »

G43FAN wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:55 am
rikimaru wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:01 am
The bad stuff:

- Driver screen feels a little small and bare? It's also missing features I'd expect like displaying the wiper setting (when you change it),
Sorry, This one's thrown me a bit, what cars have a display on the dash to show you your windscreen wiper settings?
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Post by phixion »

Yeah, the 'Up/Down Volume' and 'Next/Prev Track' placement on the steering wheel is really stupid.

My 5 previous Golfs had them the "proper" way around, so no it isn't a VW thing!
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Post by chrisfs »

Sounds like they just wired it in wrong.
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