Volkswagen ID.3 Forum

I couldn't see a specific topic for this anywhere, so apologies if I am duplicating.

Does this car actually support wireless android auto or not? My dealer is crap and tells me to restart everything, still nothing. But I'm getting a weird thing with Android Auto if I plug it in.

It will only work if I disable the bluetooth on my phone. No idea why. I plug it in, nothing. Turn off bluetooth, Android Auto kicks in.

Is anyone else having a similar issue?

Can't speak specifically for AA but for Carplay it needed 2.0 installing.

Mine is working well, better with usb-c, but also with bluetooth.
As I understood, i uses wifi for connection and bt for negotiating.

kaiz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:22 pm Mine is working well, better with usb-c, but also with bluetooth.
As I understood, i uses wifi for connection and bt for negotiating.

Interesting. I can't get it to do anything on bluetooth at all. Says the phone is connected and I can use it as a normal phone, I go into app connect and nothing. My Samsung is all up to date, I'm running 2.1 on the car, nothing.

Do you have wifi connected?
I was struggling in the beginning, as AA is not officially supported in Estonia.

kaiz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:26 pm Do you have wifi connected?
I was struggling in the beginning, as AA is not officially supported in Estonia.

When you say Wifi being connected, do you mean I need to link the phone to the car via my phones hotspot first? That would make sense if that's what you're saying.

No hotspot, but vw connection in phone.
When I try its settings, it tries to connect to vw portal.
My AA didn't worked without it.
But now, whe I want to go to web, it wants to use wifi, and can't connect through that wifi.
If I turn wifi off, it turns it on again.
So need to be fast to open web page through 4G.

kaiz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:51 pm No hotspot, but vw connection in phone.
When I try its settings, it tries to connect to vw portal.
My AA didn't worked without it.
But now, whe I want to go to web, it wants to use wifi, and can't connect through that wifi.
If I turn wifi off, it turns it on again.
So need to be fast to open web page through 4G.

Apologies if I'm being stupid, but connecting what to what? Is it a network I have to join from the phone or it's connecting to the phone through the car settings?

It offers VW+(last vin 4 numbers) network in phone.
No need for hotspot in car.

kaiz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:19 pm It offers VW+(last vin 4 numbers) network in phone.
No need for hotspot in car.

I understand now.

So I just went out to the car. Phone connected via Bluetooth. I then connected the phone to the VW wifi network that was available, all fine. Nothing. Went to app connect and said no known devices were connected.

You don't need to connect to the cars Wifi or to connect the car to your phones wifi as a hotspot.

You are suggesting the bluetooth connection works for phone calls so the connection should be there.
When you go into the menu on the car does it say 'App Connect' or does it show Android Auto?
There is also another menu in settings where you can turn on and off 'Use infotainment as hotspot' or words to that effect. Turning that off immediately disconnected my phone from AA.

G43FAN wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:29 pm You don't need to connect to the cars Wifi or to connect the car to your phones wifi as a hotspot.

You are suggesting the bluetooth connection works for phone calls so the connection should be there.
When you go into the menu on the car does it say 'App Connect' or does it show Android Auto?
There is also another menu in settings where you can turn on and off 'Use infotainment as hotspot' or words to that effect. Turning that off immediately disconnected my phone from AA.

Yes I'm connected only phone via bluetooth fine to use it as a regular phone. App connect is just showing as app connect. I can only get it to show as Android Auto if I plug it in via USB and then disable bluetooth.

Under settings - WiFi - Is use as Hotspot enabled? (For me if this is disabled then I can only use AA with USB Cable)
Also under Settings - Mobile Devices can you identify your phone and is the AA symbol greyed out or lit? Clicking this reinitiates the connection and verification if I disconnect by switching off hotspot? (This being done with only BT connection, no USB)

Took a ride, and looked over.
Wifi is My VW xxxx (last vin digits). Same had BT connection.
I have no hotspot in phone or car.
In AA settings in phone I found 'Wireless projection' switched, maybe that for?

G43FAN wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:24 pm Under settings - WiFi - Is use as Hotspot enabled? (For me if this is disabled then I can only use AA with USB Cable)
Also under Settings - Mobile Devices can you identify your phone and is the AA symbol greyed out or lit? Clicking this reinitiates the connection and verification if I disconnect by switching off hotspot? (This being done with only BT connection, no USB)

Okay, I've fixed it after sitting in the car for 20 minutes.

Hotspot was enabled anyway, so there was no issue there.

I looked through the android auto settings on my phone and Wireless Android Auto was not enabled, so I enabled that. Still nothing.

I plugged it in via cable, got the android auto to come up. Unplugged it. Nothing. Plugged it back in, signed into the wireless network of the car, unplugged and it worked! Tested it out a bit and seems that you needed to have it plugged in first after enabling wireless on the phone, then it works. But you do have to be signed into the network of the car.

CarterHounslow wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:58 pm

G43FAN wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:24 pm Under settings - WiFi - Is use as Hotspot enabled? (For me if this is disabled then I can only use AA with USB Cable)
Also under Settings - Mobile Devices can you identify your phone and is the AA symbol greyed out or lit? Clicking this reinitiates the connection and verification if I disconnect by switching off hotspot? (This being done with only BT connection, no USB)

Okay, I've fixed it after sitting in the car for 20 minutes.

Hotspot was enabled anyway, so there was no issue there.

I looked through the android auto settings on my phone and Wireless Android Auto was not enabled, so I enabled that. Still nothing.

I plugged it in via cable, got the android auto to come up. Unplugged it. Nothing. Plugged it back in, signed into the wireless network of the car, unplugged and it worked! Tested it out a bit and seems that you needed to have it plugged in first after enabling wireless on the phone, then it works. But you do have to be signed into the network of the car.

Shouldn't AA work over bluetooth not wifi?

If you connect to the car's wifi and the car does not have a data package then won't things like email not be able to get messages, Spotify won't get music etc? If my phone is connected to a wifi then I thought it wouldn't use mobile phone data.

As I understand, it won't use car wifi, only data moves through wifi.
Unchecked 'Wireless projection' in phone and connection was lost.
But no hotspot neither in car, nor in phone is needed.

I thought from you're update you were connecting to My VW XXXX? That's the BT ID.

G43FAN wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:02 pm I thought from you're update you were connecting to My VW XXXX? That's the BT ID.

Ok obviously rather confusing as both bluetooth (BT) and wi-fi are wireless, plus even voice is really data so both carry data, but I think BT is like plugging in a USB cable to a computer, whereas wi-fi is like plugging in an ethernet cable.

I had assumed that one connects to BT not wi-fi hotspot, but your previous post had stated "Under settings - WiFi - is use as Hotspot enabled? (For me if this is disabled then I can only use AA with USB Cable)" - hence it appeared you were recommending connecting to the ID.3's wi-fi hotspot.

I think both the wi-fi hotspot and BT are called My VW XXXX.

Sorry, I can't try it on my own ID.3 as it is spending its second week with the dealer for 97ET recall (2.1 installation) and the loan 1st Edition only has 0564. I was struggling with my ID.3 on 0783 to get reliable AA connection, thanks.

I have tested this a lot now since fixing it, I definitely have to be on the wireless network VW XXXX on my phone, if I am not, android will not work wireless.

Thankfully it's pretty automatic, soon as I'm out of home WiFi range the phone picks up the car WiFi and kicks andoird auto on. If I want to get it working before I leave I have to change networks.