Recommend home charger

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Trantor
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Post by Trantor »

I'm soon to become an ID.3 owner, my first EV, so need to have a home charger installed. I'd like some advice and/or recommendations regarding which one works best with the ID.3.

I suppose my key requirements is that either via the car, or the charger, I can program in scheduled charging to make use of off-peak tariffs. I've had quotes to install a Zappi and the dealer I bought the car from works with a company that installs Rolec chargers. I'd also add that I don't have any solar panels so not a consideration on that front.

Looking at past comments in ID3 forums there has been a history of the Zappi not communicating with the car, or vice versa, and scheduled charging does not start. Is this still a problem or has it been fixed?

Any suggestions gratefully received.
ID.3 Max owner. Located East Dorset, UK.

Oscarg
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Post by Oscarg »

You probably dont need to pay out the extra cost for the zappi. I have the sync ev and schedule charging works good from the charger. The eo mini pro seems to work also as well.
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Post by M3G4D0Y1E »

Ohme
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Post by Gr4ndp4 »

Pod Point Solo, allows a scheduled programme and does not require an earth rod it also has auto power balancing to limit your home circuit loading.
https://pod-point.com/solutions/driver/home-charging
Cheers
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digital
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Post by digital »

Zappi. £600 after the grant.

It doesn't need an earth rod, will load balance, customer support is the best and we are able to use surplus solar (3kW earlier today) from our solar PV panels to top up when the sun shines.

Make sure you get quotes from local installers. Nationals were quoting us £1200+!
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Post by Deleted User 192 »

£600 for a Zappi? More like £850-900 from my experience.

Which is why I didn’t get one, even though I have a solar installation - the extra cost over a Pod Point just wasn’t worth it with my solar output.
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Post by digital »

scott28tt wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:38 pm £600 for a Zappi? More like £850-900 from my experience.

Which is why I didn’t get one, even though I have a solar installation - the extra cost over a Pod Point just wasn’t worth it with my solar output.
You appear to be doubting what I have said...

I cannot account for your experience, but £600 wasn't the cheapest quote I got. It was £20 more but I liked the way the installer quoted.
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Post by Deleted User 192 »

digital wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 9:38 am
You appear to be doubting what I have said...

From the manufacturer, one of the most well-known installers, plus the installer who I used:

https://myenergi.com/product/zappi/
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/charg ... v-charger/
https://www.mrcharger.co.uk/ev-charging ... -charging/

And I've read in multiple online forums and groups that people typically pay £800-900.

If you've had one supplied and installed for £600, that's great.
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Post by digital »

You may have read that 'people typically pay £800-900' but that doesn't mean you should sow any doubt on the fact that I paid £600. Calling someone's honesty into doubt on zero evidence is not a good look.
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Post by G43FAN »

I don't think your word or honesty was being questioned, I think it was surprise at the cost. £600 for installation is phenomenal value when you consider the Zappi and a Typical Type A RCD are the best part of £765 alone. With the £350 grant the installer was charging you less than £200 for the installation!!
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Post by digital »

G43FAN wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 2:28 pm I don't think your word or honesty was being questioned
I disagree.
G43FAN wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 2:28 pm With the £350 grant the installer was charging you less than £200 for the installation!!
He did and made that clear in the quote. He's a local installer on Myenergi's list with plenty of Zappi experience so he gets on with the installation and isn't left scratching his head on what to do next. Really competent and an extremely neat installation.
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Post by Deleted User 192 »

digital wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 10:53 am You may have read that 'people typically pay £800-900' but that doesn't mean you should sow any doubt on the fact that I paid £600. Calling someone's honesty into doubt on zero evidence is not a good look.

You paid what you paid, I'm sure you're not making it up. You got an amazing deal.
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Post by HeidiFlowerpt Driver »

My Zappi cost me over £900. You got a tremendous bargain, well done. And my installer didn't even do a good job, I had to do some remedial work after he finished.
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digital
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Post by digital »

HeidiFlowerpt Driver wrote: Sat May 29, 2021 8:30 pm My Zappi cost me over £900. You got a tremendous bargain, well done. And my installer didn't even do a good job, I had to do some remedial work after he finished.
I did! A local installer who knew what he was doing and left me with a really neat installation with everything set up. He even spent time talking me through the settings and options I might want to change.

I got him back a few weeks later to install an Eddi for me. I could have done it myself but I preferred to support him and give him the job.
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Post by CarterHounslow »

Get a Pod Point solo. Don't bother getting a tethered one as your car comes with a type 2 cable anyway and will future proof if newer cars later have a different connection.

It supports scheduled charging (thank god as the timed charge on the car doesn't work) so you can set it, plug it in and then leave it overnight. Just remember to cancel the schedules in advance if you want to charge now as it can take 5 minutes to sync the app with the charger, but I've had one for a few months, works a treat. 7.4kw/h.
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Post by monkeyhanger »

No complaints with my Ohme pulling charge at 0030 to 0430 for Octopus GO reduced rates.
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Trantor
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Post by Trantor »

Thanks everyone for your responses.

After much investigation I decided on a Zappi. We’re considering installing solar panels to assist charging the car and help heat our hot water tank so a Zappi seemed the best option for us. Received a quote from a ‘myenergi’ approved installer for £750 after the grant. All being well will be installed next week.
ID.3 Max owner. Located East Dorset, UK.
CarterHounslow
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Post by CarterHounslow »

Yes I heard a lot of good things about Zappi, especially if you have solar. Only downside is you have to leave your car plugged in all the time, as the charger will decide to divert power to the car when you have excess energy (typically during the day).
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Post by MotMot »

To save starting a new thread - about 95% there to giving my deposit for a new ID3 and researching what looks like a complicated home charging market!

Any good places / websites to start? Prefer to use a local person if poss (Manchester based) - and its a fairly simple install (board in cellar - wire 2m along wall and out through wall to exterior).

Looks like some sort of charge timing/sync is a good idea - no need for solar panel integration etc...

Like the look of the Sync EV (as its small) - the OHME one seems great but a bit big/messy looking (cables, holster etc..) for our set up. Podpoint looks decent, but they are quite large - and white - subtle/unobtrusive are a plus...

Had a good couple of hours looking online but it all seems to be sign up here and we’ll give you a quote type type sites...
HeidiFlowerpt Driver
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Post by HeidiFlowerpt Driver »

If you're anywhere near @digital (postings in this thread) his installer sounds great...
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