Scratch wrote: ↑Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:32 am
monkeyhanger wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:09 pm
ItshardtobuyId3 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:09 pm
I’ve just jumped ship to a Born. By some miracle my local dealer had one I a liked new in the showroom. It’s a V1 in Aurora blue with Typoon wheels and Tech pack L.
It’s so much nicer inside and was surprised how different it was to drive. Getting it next Friday. That’s the shortest I’ve ever owned a car but they are giving me more than I paid for it in PX so nothing to lose apart from £55 a month more!
Are you sure you wouldn't get more through motorway for your ID3?
What do you mean by different to drive? The V2 is marginally sharper on the steeering/handling by virtue of the 19" wheels and lower profile tyres, the V1 on 18" wheels that I test drove first drove no better than my Life Pro-perfornance, so I don't think there are any suspension/damping differences. It seemed marginally better.
When I test drove the Born they "couldn't find the V2 they had in stock", only the keys, so I test drove a V1. I did notice the slightly different driving position (lower) than my ID3, but that was all I noticed. When I drove away in my ID3 I remember thinking to my myself, "I think I prefer this car". But you can't deny the Born has a better looking exterior, and better cabin.
When I drove the V1 demo on the standard 18" wheels, shod with Bridgestones like our ID3s were, it handled the same as the ID3s, I really don't think that the sustension geometry or shocks have been altered at all for the Born to make it drive more dynamically. The V2 on 19" wheels feels a little sharper, but I believe that's all down to being on better rubber (Continentals rather than the hard, crashy and poor grip Bridgestones) and a lower profile sidewall. A V1 n the V2 intended wheels will almost certainly handle like a V2, because i'm pretty sure that there's only the wheel/tyre differences between the 2 cars. Wheel arch gaps between the Born and the ID3 don't seem to indicate that the Born has lowered suspension vs the ID3, nor does the 230ps variant seem to have a lower/firmer suspension set up than the 204ps variant.
It's that long ago, but I did think at the time that the ID3 demo on 19" wheels drove a little better than my own on 18" wheels.
The "comfort" profile on the Born does feel marginally more aggressive than the ID3's, but that just shortens the difference between Comfort and Performance on the 204ps Born (very little difference, pretty much just the steering weighting) vs the difference between Comfort and Sport on the ID3.. On the V1 204ps demo I drove at Sunderland, Performance was no more aggressive or potent than Sport on my ID3, which makes perfect sense, seeing as they're both 204ps, with the same drive ratio and same top speed.
I can't remember from the V1 demo drive whether the comfort setting on my 230ps V2 has proportionately more go than that of the 204ps variant, or whether it and Performance are the same with only the "Cupra" mode of the 230ps variant having the full range of power without hoofing the accelerator beyond the clicky zone,
VAG have been doing these modes for ages now, with the premise that the lower output modes use less juice (either in ICE or EV variants), and they can do, as long as you don't end up pressing the accelerator pedal harder to get the same acceleration, and if you're using ACC, the lower output modes use less acceleration to recover to a set speed after having been slowed down by traffic. In reality, the range differences are marginal if you're a forward thinking driver who doesn't waste much momentum, especially if you're not using the ACC much. The biggest influence in Summer economy is in your aircon usage. If you have it on, put the recirculation on.
For me then, comparing the Born V1 on 18" wheels to an ID3 204ps on 18" wheels, or a V2 204ps on 19" wheels to an ID3 204ps on 19" wheels, the differences are just skin deep. For me, the Born is all about the sports seats, the more useful/better looking central console/armrest, and the nicer looking front end.
The Born may look like the hot hatch version of the ID3, but in reality, it handles no better and is no more chuckable in the twisties - they're both big, heavy lumps - but they do handle better than a Golf GTI carrying 20 bags of cement back from Wickes.
All Borns have a heated steering wheel, the V1 doesn't get heated seats, but the V2/3 do. The V2/V3's HUD is great too. The V2 has rear cam, not sure if the V1 does.
Motorway prices quoted are usually met or marginally exceeded by a few hundred quid. It's a quick process to know whether you'll get more. Apply and submit your photos 1 day and the next day the car is put up for auction from 8am to 3pm. By 3pm the day after you submitted, you know whether the car met its reserve, and even then, you're not obliged to sell until you confirm acceptance f the final price. If/when you do confirm, the buyer will send someone up to get your car within the week and pay you for it once they've made sure the description matches the condition. Would I go the motorway route for an extra few hundred quid? Nope? For a minimum of £1000 more though, I definitely would. I got £1200 more for my Life than the PX offer, but a whopping £4700 more for the Family (£33500 PX vs £38197).
This is probably code for, buy it and you can not say anything about the number of coats, shoes and bags that I will be able to buy!
. I can look when I go out latter if not answered before.