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Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:44 am
by Kabfab
I assume for a long journey using a Rapid charging location is easiest time-wise. Zap-Map lists some charging sites on farms, business premises, caravan parks etc....can you just roll up, plug in and use these in what seem to be non-public locations?
Also how best to prepare for paying in these sorts of locations?
Thanks

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:14 pm
by Deleted User 192
This has been my approach so far: (all for free)

1. Use this app to plan your route and stops: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/
2. Once you know where you'd like to stop, use any nav system (either the in-car version, or a phone app) to get you there as you drive.
3, Check the charger availability with Zap-Map.

As for payment, that will depend on the provider of the charger - some take contactless cards, others you have to use an app, some you have to have an RFID card.

ABRP also has CarPlay and Android Auto integration if you pay to subscribe, Zap-Map has now done an equivalent of that.

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:11 am
by Kabfab
If it’s a farm or business type location, can anyone drive up and use the charging point?
Thanks for the other info.

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:43 am
by Deleted User 192
That will typically be private land, usually for employee/customer use only, and also often only "destination" chargers - the equivalent of a home charge point (7kW AC) <<< this is a critical point as you'll be sat charging for hours rather than using a public "rapid" point (50kW+ DC) for perhaps 10-20 minutes.

A couple of the "destination" points in the car park in my office are listed, but you have to get into the car park via security first - we have 24/7 security on-site and they do tend to let non-employees in to use them but only outside of office hours.

I wouldn't plan on using those kinds of points, you can filter them out, look at the information or comments of a specific point in Zap-Map for clues as to restrictions and usage.

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:18 am
by Kabfab
Helpful, thanks.

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:14 pm
by hungerdunger
Also, be aware that even if you find a fast AC charger, the car will only charge at 11kWh, which is virtually useless for long journeys. Always aim for DC chargers. I found this out the hard way on my first long journey after we had the car.

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:41 am
by Deleted User 192
hungerdunger wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:14 pm Also, be aware that even if you find a fast AC charger, the car will only charge at 11kWh, which is virtually useless for long journeys. Always aim for DC chargers. I found this out the hard way on my first long journey after we had the car.

Exactly why I mentioned this:

this is a critical point as you'll be sat charging for hours [at an AC poiint] rather than using a public "rapid" point (50kW+ DC) for perhaps 10-20 minutes.

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:30 am
by Kabfab
Appreciate the advice. Thanks

Re: Where to charge car on long journey

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:41 pm
by hungerdunger
Exactly why I mentioned this:

this is a critical point as you'll be sat charging for hours [at an AC poiint] rather than using a public "rapid" point (50kW+ DC) for perhaps 10-20 minutes.
Yes, but you didn't explain that even if the AC charger is rated at 43kWh (as a lot of the Ecotricity ones are), you will still only charge at 11kWh.

Which is why I mentioned it.